tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4929118264557347645.post4715447664352111935..comments2023-11-02T05:05:42.681-05:00Comments on Reformed Seth: Quote of the Week- Rousseau on the Gospels Sethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13248559361975013834noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4929118264557347645.post-59377842470614126692012-09-10T11:28:32.383-05:002012-09-10T11:28:32.383-05:00Yeah determinism coupled with fatalism. Not only i...Yeah determinism coupled with fatalism. Not only is not possible, it's annoying. Think of a creature that can look outside himself and see that he is determined if everything is indeed determined. <br /><br />Yeah, the only similarity (I can think of right off) between the three is monotheism. Sethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13248559361975013834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4929118264557347645.post-85730598113380153832012-09-07T11:36:52.546-05:002012-09-07T11:36:52.546-05:00When you say "determinism," do you mean ...When you say "determinism," do you mean the kind of "Allah wills it" fatalism found in the more orthodox parts of Islam? That always reminds me of that line in "Lawrence of Arabia" when Lawrence gets told regarding a man who wandered out into the desert "It was written!"<br /><br />Islam's greatest error is trying to claim it comes in line with Judaism and Christianity, but a serious and unbiased study of Judeo-Christian thought with Islamic theology shows great inconsistencies.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04232209481041145155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4929118264557347645.post-68860599746791949272012-09-07T08:17:41.920-05:002012-09-07T08:17:41.920-05:00When I read about other religions, I rejected the ...When I read about other religions, I rejected the Islam religion because of its staunch determinism which I find incompatible with reality. I also found the quran to be unreliable and some of their value immoral. <br /><br />Can you imagine the bad publicity Ehrman would get for writing a book like that? I bet that's the only reason he doesn't. He probably wouldn't make as much money either. Sethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13248559361975013834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4929118264557347645.post-32528337740351462382012-09-06T13:25:16.228-05:002012-09-06T13:25:16.228-05:00You could technically make the same argument for I...You could technically make the same argument for Islam, I suppose. Mohammad never wrote anything about himself or his actions in the sense of a semi-autobiography; the Quran is a direct revelation from God to him, and though it makes mention of him, it's nothing close to, say, what the hadith and sunna sources (written by or sourced to his followers) tell us about him. Even then, if Muslim tradition means anything, it wasn't Mohammad who directly hand wrote the Quran, but dictated it to others to write on whatever was available at the time.<br /><br />Again, though, you'll never find Bart Ehrmann writing a book "Misquoting Mohammad" (James White even confronted him about it in their debate, and he avoided giving an answer).Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04232209481041145155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4929118264557347645.post-4687761684121930912012-09-06T13:04:50.391-05:002012-09-06T13:04:50.391-05:00Socrates didn't write any of his thoughts beca...Socrates didn't write any of his thoughts because, put simply, he thought writing devalued philosophy. He preferred dialog and *doing* philosophy over writing his thoughts. <br /><br />I know that scholars think Plato's Republic is a Plato's philosophy rather than Socrates. It's thought that Plato used a fictitious Socrates to communicate his own thoughts. And I think symposium's source is from a friend of a friend who was hanging out with socrates and the other guys in the symposium. I'm not sure about the other works. <br /><br />D'Souza used this argument in a debate with Hitchens and Hitchens just kind of laughed it off/changed subject. Nice.....Sethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13248559361975013834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4929118264557347645.post-61882184272335399002012-09-06T10:53:17.771-05:002012-09-06T10:53:17.771-05:00"...the doings of Socrates, which no one doub..."...the doings of Socrates, which no one doubts, are less well attested than those of Jesus Christ."<br /><br />I've often brought that up. To my knowledge (and feel free to correct me, please) there are no direct works of Socrates, only stories or quotes of him from Plato or others. There's likewise better manuscript evidence for the stories and quotes of Jesus than the stories and quotes of Socrates...yet you don't see books coming out entitled "Misquoting Socrates."Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04232209481041145155noreply@blogger.com